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Job Search Skills You Didn't Know You Needed: Remote, Hybrid, Onsite, and Hiring Eligibility

10/22/2024

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

Onsite, Remote, and Hybrid Work Implications

When searching for a job, one challenge is figuring out what work arrangements a given employer has in mind. Since 2020, companies in the United States often label their open positions as onsite, hybrid, or remote. Even with those labels, job seekers and individual employers are still not always aligned on what exactly that means. 

​Let's look at some of the factors in play. 

Remote Job Clarifications

For a job labeled as "remote," their expectations could be any of the following:
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  • The candidate lives in the United States and can work from anywhere.
  • The candidate lives in the United States and must work from their home.
  • The candidate lives within a specific list of states where the potential employer is set up to conduct business.
  • The candidate lives within a specific time zone.
  • The candidate is willing to work hours in a specified time zone.
  • The candidate lives within a specified distance from one of the company's physical office locations.
  • The candidate lives in the metropolitan area of the company's headquarters.
  • The company is "remote first" with no physical office location.
  • The company is "remote-friendly," meaning there may be the option to work in an office location, a designated shared space, or fully remote.
  • The company is "open to remote" and may consider a candidate who does not work in their office location.

Onsite, Remote, and Hybrid Roles in Practice

Regardless of the label, each role may work differently in practice. Here are a few of the many possible scenarios:

  • A company may label a job as remote, then later in the job description mention preferences for being onsite.
  • A company may label a job as hybrid when it could more accurately be described as remote with some travel to the corporate office.
  • A company may label a job as onsite or hybrid, and in the body of the job description, explain that they are also open to remote.
  • A company may label a job hybrid, expecting people to be onsite (in the office) anywhere from never to 4 days per week. 
  • A company may have an unstated preference for the location of employees.
  • A company may not be clear about their ongoing thoughts on having workers return to the office or the timeline for that change.
  • Many companies label roles as remote but do not clarify additional details about arrangements (which states, preferences for specific geographical locations).
  • Companies may decide on a case by case basis where they prefer employees to be located or if they will be remote, hybrid, or onsite.
  • Any of these designations may also include travel. 

Navigating Job Listings for Remote Roles

As a job seeker who understand the different stated options and possible meanings, here are a few strategies for navigating job listings:

  • Review posted job openings for additional details on work arrangements. For remote roles, read the main job description and skim the listing for additional location restrictions (time zones, states, and proximity to a physical office).
  • If you're on a job search site, find the job listing on the company's website. Sometimes they will include additional details on the specific states where they are able to hire and/or want to hire for a given position. 
  • If you’re not sure if a company can do business in your state, use LinkedIn to search for employees at that company who currently live in your state. This would indicate that the company is legally able to hire someone in your state.
  • Connect with and speak with someone at the organization and ask for additional clarification on work arrangements and remote work policies.
  • If it’s unclear, reach out to a company recruiter to clarify details (or, if time is of the essence, apply first, then ask questions later).

Remote Work Implications: Locations and Pay

There are also a few other implications of remote work to keep in mind:
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  • Salary ranges will be all over the board for the same role. For example, a title like "Training Manager" could have a salary of anywhere from $50,000 - $225,000 per year, depending on the location of the company's corporate office. 
  • Some companies adjust their salary ranges based on the candidate's geographic area, while others do not. 
  • Even with pay transparency laws in some states, not all jobs list the salary range--even when they are now required to do so. 

Strategies for Remote Work Salary Conversations

Given these variations on how salaries work for remote roles, be sure to think through your financial requirements and how you will address questions about your desired salary:

  • Identify your desired salary range overall. Use this range as a starting point for all conversations.
  • Review posted salary ranges for the role. Make sure they at least meet your minimum salary.
  • During the interview process, when a recruiter or hiring manager asks you for your desired salary range, answer that question with the question, “what is the salary range for this position?” This assures that you’re not selling yourself short.

Learn More

  • The Layoff Lady: Interview Preparation: The Initial Phone Screen
  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​
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Your Weekly Job Search To Do List

9/3/2024

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by Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

A Harsh Truth About Job Searching

Whether you are employed and searching for a role that is a better match or in a post-layoff career transition, job searching has many challenges. Perhaps the most frustrating part is that you can't control when you will get a new job. The whole process takes as long as it takes. To make the waiting and uncertainty more bearable, focusing on the aspects of your job search you can control is helpful. 

Measuring Success

When working toward a goal, it's always helpful to identify your goals and track your progress toward those goals. This will also help you to evaluate what you are doing and adjust as needed to help you see greater success. There are two kinds of indicators to help measure success: leading indicators and lagging indicators. 

When working toward a goal, most people focus on lagging indicators. In a work setting, if I deliver a training session to help boost product sales, future sales numbers are a lagging indicator. Many factors contributing to future sales are outside my control—like what competing products exist, commission rates, or market conditions. Ultimately, sales numbers are a lagging indicator of success because they show up later on.

Focusing on lagging indicators is how we are encouraged to measure progress in much of life. We look to the scale to show us if we lost weight, our temperature to see if we are healthy, and an accepted job offer as proof of results. While these are all the ultimate measures of success, they are the outputs of many tangible factors we can track and control. Which brings us to...

Along the way, it’s more helpful to focus on leading indicators. These are the easily measurable, countable, check-off-able items that are within your control. In my sales training scenario, leading indicators of success would include holding the training session, the number of attendees, knowledge check results from each participant, and the presence of a reference document. I can control all of these things, count them, and check off tasks completed.

Focusing on the right leading indicators doesn't guarantee I'll achieve my lagging indicators of increased sales, but that success is more likely to happen. Similarly, if I commit to the daily tasks of walking for 30 minutes, eating 5 servings of vegetables, and drinking 64 ounces of water per day, I am positioning myself for more success in my weight loss goal. Those right actions, and tweaking them as needed, will eventually lead to that number on the scale moving in the right direction. 

Job Search: Lagging Indicators

Within the context of a job search, here are a few lagging indicators of job search progress. You can also not directly control these actions happening:

  • Finding a current employee to refer me for a specific job at their company.
  • Getting a collegues to put in a good word for me with a potential employer.
  • Hearing back from an employer about an initial interview.
  • Being invited to a follow-up or final job interview.
  • Recieving a job offer.

All these lagging are definitive, and are indicators of legitimate progress toward getting a new job. You also can not directly make any of these things happen. 

Ways to Achieve the Bigger Goal

During your job search, it's important to focus on activities that can position you to reach those milestones. Here are the broad areas you can impact:
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  • Build or strengthen networking connections with people who work in my industry or for a possible employer (which may lead to a referral)
  • Highlight my professional skillset through my LinkedIn profile (which may lead to an employer reaching out about an open position)
  • Apply for jobs that are a good fit for me (which may lead to a call back)
  • Improve how I position my work experience (which may lead to my resume being selected for an initial phone screen)

Job Search: Leading Indicators. 

Now, turn those squishier ideas into leading indicators. Do this by creating specific, countable, check-off-able tasks on your to-do list. Here are a few examples: 

  • On LinkedIn, spend 15 minutes each weekday reacting to and commenting on posts made by my connections and companies that I follow.
  • On LinkedIn, make a post each Tuesday at 10:00 am that starts with a sentence about a valuable skill I have and includes a link to an article about that skill. 
  • On LinkedIn, make a post each Thursday at 2:00 pm that includes a work-relevant inspirational quote.
  • On LinkedIn, send five requests to connect with new people each week.
  • Identify five jobs that meet my job search criteria.
  • Apply for three jobs with tailored resumes.
  • On LinkedIn, follow the LinkedIn page for each company where I apply.
  • Take part in at least one professional development activity per week.

Having this list of tangible actions to take will keep you on track to achieve your goal of finding a new job.

Keep On Doing The Right Things

Some weeks, you do a lot of waiting, which makes you feel like you are terrible at everything and destined to be stuck right where you are. Other weeks, people will trip over one another clamoring to talk with you about yet another amazing job opportunity. During those weeks, you feel like this is all easy and you can do no wrong. Stay the course and keep on keeping on knowing that eventually something will pop.

What Do You Think? 

How do you sustain momentum during your job search? Share your thoughts in the comments. 

Learn More

  • ​Book: Atomic Habits: An Easy and Proven Way To Build Good Habits and Break Bad Ones 
  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide
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Growing Your Professional Network: Attending Webinars

7/2/2024

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by  Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

Network Building in the Beforetimes

Pre-pandemic, "networking" typically meant attending in-person events, shaking a few hands, and having a somewhat meaningful conversation with another human. While in-person opportunities are again plentiful, webinars continue to be popular since they are a flexible way to bring people together to learn. Be sure to think of your network during virtual events, too.

Connect with Webinar Attendees

Like many people, I have attended (and delivered) approximately a bijillion online meetings, trainings, and interactive instructor-led sessions. I've been approaching these sessions with a mind towards not just attending, but also making new connections. Although the process differs from in-person interaction with people, I have managed to connect with more people (and often form more meaningful connections) than attending in-person meetings and “working the room.” As someone who runs introverted and communicates effectively in writing, this was an opportunity to turn webinars into a bonus network-building exercise.

Your Personal Webinar Branding

When attending a webinar, I make sure that people are able to see who I am, my full name, and a picture, if at all possible. I use the same photo I use on LinkedIn so that people associate me with that picture. I also make sure that my first and last name are present so people have a chance of being able to find me after the session--or will recognize my name. 

In addition, during the webinar, I interact during the session. This usually involves commenting in the chat when prompted--which is also an opportunity for other attendees to see my full name. During any small group interactions, I'm sure to turn my camera on so people can see my face, hear my voice, and see my name. If the presenter asks people to share out loud, I usually turn on my camera, and share my thoughts. Again, this is another opportunity for people to hear my voice, see my face, and see my name. Each of these "impressions" helps people start to get to know me at least a little bit. 

Finding Potential Connections

During a webinar, I often take a screenshot of the participant list and a gallery of attendees if people are on camera. Whenever possible, download the chat from the session. This helps me identify who was active in the webinar and gives me additional information on anything they might have shared during the session. I often make notes on notecards during sessions to help me remember who might have said what and key content covered. All of these details can help me when interacting with attendees later on when I send LinkedIn connection requests.

Researching Potential Connections

After attending a webinar, here is my process for adding new LinkedIn connections:
  • Refer to the list of attendees at a webinar.
  • Search for each person on LinkedIn.
  • Skim their profile for things we might have in common or ways that we might be able to help one another.  These might include our geographical location, people who we both know, their industry, their current role, if they are looking for work, and if they had any recent activity (posts, articles, or likes) on their account.
  • Decide whether or not to send them a connection request.

One Option: Personalizing a Connection Request

Personalizing connection requests is a great way to start building a relationship with a new professional contact. Here are the key components I include:
  • Personalized greeting
  • ​Statements on what we have in common 
  • Invitation to become part of one another's professional network
  • Optional: suggested next step
    • Offer of job searching help
    • Suggestion on something in particular to do
    • Sharing additional information
    • Suggest a phone call, virtual/in-person meeting
  • Signature

Personalized Connection Request Examples

Here are a few examples of messages that you can use to invite people to connect. Currently, LinkedIn allows you to include up to 300 characters when personalizing connection requests. 

Hi, Jen. I see we both attended today’s White Box Club meeting. ​I’m also in career  transition and seeking a new role in learning and development. Let's connect!

I'm also always up for a 30-minute "virtual coffee" meeting to discuss how we can help one another as we job search. 

--Brenda

Hi, Jack. Great to interact with you a bit at this morning's Excellence Share. I love sharing ideas with fellow L&D professionals. Let's connect!

--Brenda

Hi, Javier. I see we both attended today's "Sales Enablement Best Practices" webinar. I definitely enjoy learning from this group. 

Since you mentioned that you are job searching, be sure to check out The White Box Club on Meetup to help you as you find your next role.


Let's connect!

​--Brenda

Other Options: Showing Your Value as a Connection

Now that LinkedIn limits the number of personalized connection requests those with the basic membership receive each month, sending personalized connection requests might not be an option for you.

In those cases, here are a few other options for helping to show your value to a potential connection: 
  • Send a non-personalized request right after the event ends. This way, people may associate you with the webinar you just attended.
  • Take a moment to react to and/or comment on recent LinkedIn posts made by your potential connection. This way, they may recognize your name and be more likely to accept your post.
  • Make sure your headline is descriptive and up to date. This way, when people receive a non-personalized connection request, they at least have a better sense of who you are from your headline and if you might be a valuable connection. 

​After The Initial Connection

How do you further nurture that relationship? Here are a few ideas.
  • React to other people's posts.
  • Comment on other people's posts with your insights.
  • Share someone's post to your feed and @mention them to thank them for sharing the information.
  • Send a quick message to a connection sharing helpful information they will appreciate. 
  • Congratulate people on their career milestones and successes.
  • Wish them a happy holiday/Friday/weekend on occasion.

Continue to Build The Relationship

After connecting with people initially, be sure to continue to nurture those connections. Posting useful content, and occasionally messaging people is one way to do that. Ideally, you can add value to the relationship before you are in a position where you need to ask those individuals for help. 

Learn More

  • ​The White Box Club Group on Meetup
  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​​
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Five Reasons Why Job Searching Is Hard

6/11/2024

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by  Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

Welcome To The Suck

Whether you are in career transition and looking for a new job, or employed and looking for something new, job searching is always challenging--partly due to all of the uncertainty you'll face as you "wait for your life to start again" as you search for the next right role fro you.

Suffice it to say that job searching can be full of obstacles that make the process hard to manage. Knowing the possible issues is the first step towards figuring out how to mitigate each challenge and move forward. Here are five unfortunate reasons I have discovered while working through job transitions and a few coping strategies for dealing with each. 

Reason 1: You Won't Always Interview For "The Perfect Job."

Congratulations! You just found THE PERFECT JOB! You have all of the required and preferred qualifications!  It's at the right level with your dream company, and you even know someone who works there who will say great things about you! Surely your days of job searching are coming to a close because you are the purple squirrel for THE PERFECT JOB!

Enter reality. I'm sorry to say that you may not even manage to get so much as an initial phone screen for this position. Even when you feel like the job was tailor-made for you, it may not work out the way you want. Why might that happen? 

For one, the position may not actually be available. Some organizations post job openings to gauge interest in the position even though they have no solid plans to hire anytime soon. Conversely, the role may have been open for a while, and the selection process may be well underway. There could also be an internal person who will take the job without additional people being considered. In some cases, companies may have a policy that they need to post positions externally for a given length of time, even though they already have a candidate in mind.  Still other organizations may decide part way through the hiring process to leave a position unfilled but not remove it from their posted jobs right away.

Assuming the job is really, and for true accepting applicants, there may still be issues. For one, key organizational stakeholders may lack common agreement on what a job role will do and what constitutes being a well-qualified candidate. Decision makers may also each have their own non-negotiable requirements for the qualifications for the potential hire--which may or may not relate to the person's ability to do the job. Remember that no matter what the issue is, it seldom has anything to do with you personally. It's just the life of recruiting for and trying to fill positions with the best candidates they can find--sometimes with people who are (unfortunately) not you.

Coping Strategies

  • Talk to people who work for the company in that department to learn more about the company and the inside information on the role. Find out if the job is for real open, what the job actually does, who the hiring manager is, and what their ideas are on what it means to be well qualified. More information can help you decide how to proceed--or possibly to skip applying altogether.
  • When possible, try to have someone already working at the company refer you for a position. This may help you get your resume in front of the hiring manager by someone who can vouch for you as a candidate. 
  • ​Apply for multiple positions at different employers and manage your expectations accordingly. Know that you won't get every job that catches your eye--regardless of how qualified you are.

Reason 2: People Who Aren't Great At Their Jobs Will Make It Hard.

Remember a time at your last job when you had to deal with someone who was not great at what they did for a living? Like the rude salesperson who didn't do their paperwork correctly and caused you to lose out on a great deal? Or the manager who approved your time off request months ago, then decided to "unapprove" it a week before your vacation? During your job search, you'll realize those people exist in other organizations, too, and they sometimes stand between you and the job you want. 

It could come in the form of an administrative assistant who is supposed to coordinate your travel for an in-person interview--who didn't make reservations and then went on vacation, leaving you scrambling to find someone else to help. It might be the person conducting initial phone interviews who didn't realize that learning experience design and instructional design were the same thing and screened you out. It may even be an insecure possible future coworker who wants to avoid hiring someone who might outshine them. Like the rest of life, things are not always "fair." You may not get the job, even if you are a strong candidate. And so it goes.

Coping Strategies

  • When possible, try to have someone refer you for a role. This may help you progress in the interview process since someone is already vouching for your strength as a candidate.
  • Tailor your resume using the exact words in a job description. This may help someone doing an initial phone screen see that you are qualified for a job on paper even if they don't really understand the details.
  • ​Apply for multiple positions at different employers and manage your expectations accordingly. Know that you'll hit hiccups with some, but not all, organizations. You'll hear lots of no to get to the one yes you need to get a great new job.
  • Interview the company as they interview you, and realize that you might not want to work for them either.

Reason 3: Along The Way, Someone Will Dislike You.

I don't know about you, but I am friggin' delightful. I'm also able to connect and get along well with most people. However, during the interview process, no matter who I am or am not, it will not match what someone else thinks the candidate for the position should be. Whether they thought I should have smiled more, made a different outfit choice, or given more detailed examples, someone's negative reaction to who I am may take me out of the running for a job. 

People often have their own pet theories about what they'd like in a coworker, manager, or direct report. They may be convinced that having the title "account manager" is pivotal for success, that all candidates must have a master's degree, or that people who ride horses are pretentious. You might also have the misfortune of reminding them of the mean girl in high school and BOOM--instant dislike. Again, life isn't necessarily "fair."

Coping Strategies

  • When possible, try to have someone refer you for a position. This gives you at least one person to put in a good word on your behalf with someone at the organization. Hearing that someone already working there thinks you'd be great might help make you appear more likable.
  • ​Apply for multiple positions at different employers and manage your expectations accordingly. You'll find someone who realizes how awesome you are. 
  • Realize that the converse is true, too. Somewhere, someone will think you are the most remarkable person ever for what may seem like no good reason--like an interviewer of mine who told me all about her favorite Aunt Brenda. Be happy about that, too. 
  • Be nice to everyone. Always. This may help you do well in the job search process, either directly or indirectly. Either way, being nice to everyone is just a great idea and will help you to be happier in life and build up good karma that will someday pay off. 
  • Remember--even if you get an interview with an organization, that might not be the right place for you. Interview the company as they interview you--and realize not every company will seem like the right one the more you get to know them.  You may also meet people you just plain don't like and don't want to work alongside--and you get to do that, too.

Reason 4. The Process May Be All Over The Place.

The job interview process can be anything from one interview to many, many, many interviews, depending on the organization and the role. Typically, I expect to have a phone screen with an entry-level HR person to confirm that I can speak in sentences, an in-person interview with the manager and potential coworkers, and a final interview to demonstrate skills and/or meet with a company VP. In addition, a given employer may want you to do more to show that you have the skills necessary to do the job. For example, you might be asked to pass written assessments, submit work samples, present to a group or complete a project. They may even have you come into the office for the day and "work" as if you are already in the position you are applying for.

Interviews could take place over the phone, via web conference, through email, in person, or (more likely) a combination of all of the above. Some companies will have a pre-defined, structured process for the pacing and format of interviews. Other organizations will appear to be making it up as they go along. You may also inadvertently skip steps and realize near the end of the process that you should have talked about a basic topic like salary range or work location. Sometimes, it may seem that the interview process is never-ending because you have yet to talk with every single person in the organization. 

Coping Strategies

  • During the initial phone screen, ask your interviewer about the company’s interview process. Then you can at least manage your expectations and plan accordingly.
  • ​Apply for multiple positions at different employers and manage your expectations accordingly. 
  • Realize that this whole process takes time and that some organizations have a more well-defined process than others. 
  • Make friends with the fact that you may have phone interview after in-person interview after web conference interview and, in the end, still not get the job. At this point, you pick yourself up, assess your overall strategy, adjust what you’re doing, and keep moving forward. 
  • Decide when you're no longer interested in a company based on your experience as a candidate and cut your losses. Just like they don't have to hire you, you don't have to work for them either. You have more power than you realize.

Reason 5: Their "Fast" And Yours May Be Different.

I remember being a child and how LONG the year seemed. It always took forever to get from my birthday at the end of August to Christmas. Enter adulthood. I find myself consistently marveling that it's already whatever day/month/season it is because it seems it was just that other day/month/season. In this scenario, your employer is the adult, and you are the child.
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​Some companies will be motivated to fill positions and move quickly. In contrast, others might have days, weeks, or even months between your contact with them--all because something that wasn't filling that position became a priority. 
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​What about that two days the employer estimated it would take them to contact you? It may turn into a week or two. Since they're busy addressing customer issues, traveling to client sites, and doing their expense reports, they didn't even realize it took that long. 

Or, as any job seeker doesn't want to hear, you may not be getting the job. Responding to a candidate quickly usually shows that the potential employer is interested. In many cases, taking longer to respond may indicate lagging interest. Such is how the whole process works.

Coping Strategies

  • When possible, try to have someone refer you for a position. Then, as you go through the hiring process, sometimes that person (who you are obligated to shower with gifts if you get the job) might be able to give you some insight into the position and the company's level of interest in you as a candidate.
  • Apply for multiple positions at multiple employers. Then you at least have more to wait for than just one possible job. 
  • Know that not hearing back may have more to do with an organization's process (or the time of year or the company picnic) than with your qualifications.
  • Make friends with the fact that you will not get every job. Sometimes an employer will drop off the radar because they aren't interested or they don't have clearly defined processes for letting job seekers know they are no longer being considered. 
  • Find other things to do. Apply for other jobs. Go for a walk. Talk to non-job search-related humans. Make the most of the time you would otherwise spend waiting and worrying.

Learn More

  • The Layoff Lady: Job Search Challenges: Not Getting Phone Screens
  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​
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Using 1:1 Networking Meetings For Job Searching

5/28/2024

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

The Value of Professional Networking 

When it comes to job searching, professional networking is a critical component of success. Ideally, you make initial connections with people through LinkedIn (maybe even after meeting them in person or at an online group event). While this is a great start, there is value in building relationships beyond that initial connection. A 1:1 meeting can significantly strengthen a networking relationship​ and help you learn how you and your new connection can help one another succeed.

About 1:1 Networking Meetings

So what exactly is a networking meeting? Back in the day, I remember hearing people talk about doing "informational interviews." In short, if you were interested in having a particular job or working with a specific company, you would contact an organization or individual and ask if they would meet you for an informational interview. In this 1:1 meeting, which could take place via phone or in person, you might learn about the company, what they are looking for, skills to acquire, and more. It also allowed you to start to build a relationship with a company--or a possible advocate in the person doling out said information. 

Fast forward to now. Today, a networking meeting is typically between you and another person deciding to spend a half hour-ish together. This meeting, sometimes called a coffee chat, could happen virtually via Zoom or in person, often over coffee.

If you're job searching, the typical focus will be on how to progress in your job search. Someone may agree to a networking meeting because you have things in common (like a field of work, background, professional goals), because they are generally committed to helping people when they are job searching, or because you have a mutual acquaintance to ask that person to meet with you to help you out.

Networking Meeting = Informal Interview

Whenever you have an opportunity to meet one-on-one with someone, remember that you are taking part in a type of informal interview. Whenever I meet with someone in career transition, my goal is to help them figure out their next steps, offer advice (if they ask and are interested), and give them ideas on further steps they might take, including who they should speak with next 

While I go in with this idea, the amount of help I'll provide also depends on how this networking meeting goes. Ideally, we have a good, productive conversation, and I think to myself, "I totally want to help this person more."

If the meeting goes well, I'll refer them to specific resources that might benefit them (like a networking group they might want to join, a company to check out, someone to follow on LinkedIn) and even put in a good word for them to have a networking meeting with someone else who might get them closer to their goals.

In addition, if it goes REALLY well, this is a person who I'll refer to others for openings, pass on job opportunities, and maybe even hire someday. If the meeting doesn't go well, I'll share a few resources, but I may not be willing to help them as actively moving forward. 

Remember, any interaction you have with people will impact their desire to help you in the future.

Types of Networking Meetings

Here are a few common types of networking meetings: 
  • Talking about a particular job opportunity with a specific organization. Usually, the goal of that meeting is to gain insight from someone who works at that company to help you decide if the company sounds like a good fit, how to tailor your application to the organization, or even get a referral in.
  • Talking about someone’s career path to gain insight into what you might do to get into a specific job or field. In this case, you might ask someone about how they got into a particular role—like a manager or an instructional designer or a digital marketer---with the goal of you figuring out what next steps you might want to take to get to a similar role.
  • General job search career advice. In this case, the person you’re meeting with knows that you are in a career transition and is willing to help you figure out your next steps. This could be them recommending job titles that you should look into, companies they know who are hiring, or people you might want to talk to in order to get closer to your goal of finding a job. Sometimes, this meeting might lead to the person saying, “I think you should talk to  [SuperCool Person] who [can help you with an area where you need help].

​Networking Meeting Best Practices

Here are a few best practices for networking meetings:
  • Thank the person for meeting with you and for their input.
  • Let the person know your goals for the networking meeting.
  • Let the other person talk. Remember, you're there to learn from them. Be sure to listen to what they have to say!
  • Ask them for the advice they wish they had received.
  • Ask them for their recommendations on the next steps you should take.
  • Ask them what you can do for them. Remember, they typically meet with you because someone they value asked them or they genuinely want to help. Be sure to return the favor!
  • Be ready to help that person in the future--whether it's liking one of their LinkedIn posts, sharing a post they made, or helping them promote a job opening they have. Be a good LinkedIn/professional networking neighbor. 
  • Send them a quick thank you message afterward and reiterate any next steps you talked about.
  • Follow up with anyone who they introduce you to. Even if you end up not doing a lot with that connection, be sure to be professional about it all. 

​The True Power of Networking Meetings

When people talk about how they "networked" into a new job, typically, that means they leveraged their initial connections to help make inroads with new contacts, who helped them get closer to a new position.

​The holy grail of networking meetings is when the person you meet with agrees to introduce you to someone else they know who could help you. That process repeats until you're talking to a hiring manager or influencer who can help you get an interview for a job. Having good networking meetings is a critical step in that process.

Learn More

  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​
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Your New Role: The CEO of You

5/14/2024

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

Employer-Focused Career Planning 

When you think about your career, you may think in terms of your current job title, what the company needs from you, and how your job might change based on organizational needs. This employer-focused mindset prioritizes the success of the business above all else. Often, the career planning offered by your employer is a part of their overall succession planning and focused on making sure their workforce has the skills to address anticipated future company needs. 

It's important to remember that the needs of a given business will change over time, as will company leaders, the market, the economy, and more. If that employer's needs no longer align with the skills you have and the salary they pay you for those skills, the company may make the business decision to "go in another direction." The end result may be them finding someone else to do the work they need done regardless of the skill set they encouraged you to develop.

Your New Mindset: Realistic Optimist

In much of life, having the right mindset makes all the difference. I choose to be a Realistic Optimist. That means I acknowledge the challenges inherent in situations and also realize that I have the power to make choices that will help me achieve a positive result--in this case, a career that is meaningful and fulfilling for me. 

Let's look at a few of the realities of work and your career:

  • According to the US Bureau of Labor, the average person will have 12 different jobs during their career--and many of those will not be with the same company.
  • You don't always get to pick when you leave a job. Sometimes, the company decides for you. 
  • The job you originally accepted will change over time. It may change into something you love, or it may turn into something that does not interest you.
  • ​The ability to learn and adapt to changes is a highly valued skill.
  • Some skills that are in demand now did not even exist ten years ago.

Let's also look at what that means for you: 
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  • Focusing only on a company and what they want you to do does not make long-term sense for you. Instead, you are better off figuring out what you want and need and finding a role where you have alignment between what you want and what they need. 
  • You get to decide what matters to you, what you want to do more and less of, and find a role that is the best fit for what you want. 
  • If you're in a job and it doesn't feel like a good fit anymore, you get to decide to do something else.
  • If the company decides your job will end, you have an amazing opportunity to reevaluate what you want and find something else that is a better fit for you. 

Given these realities, thinking of your work future only in terms of who is currently signing your paychecks is not the wisest course of action. ​Instead, it's time to shift how you think about your work life. You can not afford to prioritize an employer's needs over what you want and need from your career. It's time to give yourself a promotion! 

Congratulations! You are The CEO of You

Leveraging your Realistic Optimist mindset, you are now no longer just an employee doing what your current employer wants and needs you to do. Now, it’s time for you to think of yourself first and foremost as the Chief Executive Officer of your own company and the business of you. This makes you the CEO of You. 

​As the CEO of You, you are looking for employment that is a good business arrangement for you. Just like the executive team at a company needs to make tough decisions for the organization’s greater good, you need to make decisions that are in the best interests of you and your household. Adopting this mindset will change your life. 

The Business of You

As the CEO of You, it’s time to think about what success looks like for your business. What are your assets? What are your marketable skills? Which company or companies should be your business partners? When is it time for you to end a business relationship that is not working? When is it time for you to pursue a new opportunity better aligned with your life?
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Whereas you as an employee may feel like you do not have any options, you can't afford to think about your livelihood just in terms of what your biggest client (your current employer) needs. Instead, you need to make decisions for the good of your business as the CEO of You. One of those is determining how to protect one of your greatest assets–your ability to earn a living by leveraging your knowledge, skills, and expertise. You also want to stay mindful of all the aspects of the employment decisions you make and how they impact your overall wellbeing--including your career, physical, financial, social, and community wellbeing. 

Your Short and Long-Term Goals

As the CEO of You, think about your long-term goals. Just like the company's CEO does not make decisions based on what other companies think they should do, you need to do the same. Regardless of other people’s opinions, make the right decision for you and your household. Align your next steps with your overall goals. Think in terms of preferences and priorities.

​Remember, too, that you’re not just the CEO of your career but the CEO of all aspects of you. If you're in career transition and searching for a new role, this means not taking “any old job” unless you decide that is the right move for you. If you're employed by an organization that wants you to learn a new skill set, you get to decide if that interests you and how you will invest your time, talents, and money to build those skills. You get to decide what is a valuable opportunity for you and decide your next steps as you work toward aligning what your employer needs and what you want to do.

This also means that your business decisions may change over time as the environment changes. You can also change your mind about the right job for you if your current role has enough value for you to stay, when it is time for you to do something else, how you want to change direction, and more.

Adjusting Your Business Strategy 

At the end of the day, remember your role as the CEO of you and make a decision that aligns with your overall career and life goals. If that means quitting a job that makes you miserable regardless of the short-term financial consequences, you can do that. If you want to leave a job that your friends say should be your dream job, you get to make the right decision for you. If you decide to take your career in a whole new direction that others might think is too risky, you get to weigh your options and go in the direction of your choice. 

As the CEO of You, you are the driver of your career and your life. Act accordingly. 

Learn More

  • The Layoff Lady: Career Planning: Figuring Out What You Want To Be Next
  • The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​
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Endless Job Interviews and Lessons Learned

3/19/2024

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by  Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

Interviewing for a New Role

As a many-time layoff survivor, I have done quite a few job searches and had lots of interviews. Not long ago, I read an article about a job searcher who opted out of one hiring process. He did this after making it through three rounds of interviews and having the organization ask about arranging the next six (yes, 6) rounds of interviews. 
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I felt compelled to share my story about one seemingly never-ending interview process. Unfortunately, like with many things in life, it took a bad experience to teach me how to make better decisions.
Panel job interview
Yet another job interview

Job Interviewing Boundary Setting is Hard

Let me start by taking a moment to acknowledge that this is not always easy to do. It is hard to set boundaries when you’re hip-deep in a job search, especially when you’re unemployed. The longer the search goes on, the easier it is to tell yourself that you’ll summit Everest if a potential employer asks you to as part of possibly FINALLY getting a paying job.

Consider this your reminder to realize that jumping through more and more hoops doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll end up with a job at the end of the process. Do your future job-searching self a favor and think through what your boundaries are when it comes to participating in a given company's hiring process. (We'll revisit this a little later.)

​The Perfect Job! (or was it...)

During this particular job search, I was laid off at the end of the summer. From previous job searches, I hoped to find a new position before Thanksgiving because otherwise, it might be until February or March before I secured a new role.  

I was very excited when I ran across THE PERFECT JOB! It was an opening for a training director position within an easy commuting distance where I even knew someone who had connections within the organization.

Lesson Learned: Don’t fall in love with a job. Even if it seems like “the perfect job,” it is not yet “your job.” Apply, and hope for the best, but keep on applying. Until you have an actual accepted job offer, it is not “your job.

​The Inside Scoop

I met with my professional connection, and they filled me in. I learned about the organization, their clientele, their mission, the key players in the hiring process, and helpful background information. My connection even put in a good word with the organization (they had left on good terms.) I also learned that the company had some turnover in this position, so they were trying to make sure they did their due diligence and hired the right person this time around. 

Lesson Learned: Gather and synthesize information even when you’re excited because you found THE PERFECT JOB. This company having gone through two people in the role in a relatively short time period and being concerned about making another hiring misstep is something I heard and noted. Still, I didn't really take it to heart. In this case, the company was trying (maybe a little too) hard to hire the right person for the role. It may have also indicated something about the company or the position that caused people not to stay. My future self knows to synthesize information more carefully--and not overemphasize only the good things. 

The Phone Interviews

I applied, and my connection put in a good word for me. The company quickly reached out to me for an initial phone screen. Then a phone interview. Then another phone interview. Then yet another phone interview. After four phone calls—each where the new interviewer seemed excited about me as a candidate and talked about who else I needed to talk to—I started to wonder what the game plan was for this whole process (aside from their overwhelming and often stated goal of not to make a hiring mistake).

Lessons Learned: In the initial phone screen or the first interview, ask about the hiring process. This includes their estimate of when this process will be over (a week? a month? 6 months?) and the critical steps in the process. Decide your boundaries and be ready to decide the number of hours you are willing to dedicate to interviewing for this role.

​Remember, you are interviewing them, too. Make no assumptions. Don't get so excited that they keep wanting to talk with you that you keep going, not knowing how many hoops there are to jump through.​

​The Work Samples

In addition to talking to different interviewers on multiple occasions, the company wanted to see instructional design work samples from me. I emailed work samples and reviewed them with a subject matter expert who was well-versed in adult education and instructional design. They complimented me on the trainer guide, videos, and job aids I had created. They told me they were impressed with my work and learned from what I told them. At this point, they told me the next step was for me to meet with the company founder. 

Lessons Learned: Have a portfolio online that people can access, or let people know that you are happy to review work samples (and your process) with them in an in-person or Zoom meeting. I keep my work samples online with a note that these are intended to showcase my work and that they are not to be downloaded and distributed.

The Zoom Meetings

I was excited to meet the company founder, who was also a published author. In preparation,  I bought and read their most recent book, researched their accomplishments, read their blog articles, and reviewed their body of work. During the interview, we had a great conversation, which included a lot of “when we work together” and “next steps” language. 

This meeting was followed by multiple Zoom meetings with different stakeholders (again, one at a time) explaining the next steps in this process—which they called an “in-box experience.” During this phase, I would come into their office and work for a half day. I would have a chance to interact with multiple people I would work with, including consultants and a client. This would require me to sign a non-disclosure agreement, work on a project for an actual client, and present information to a client.  

Lessons Learned: No matter how many interviews you have, or how much they seem to like you, remember you do not have the job until they have made you an offer and you have come to an agreement about your compensation. Remember that the goal of this process is that the employer decides if they want to work with you, and you decide if you want to work with them. Looking back, I'm frustrated with myself that I invested SO MUCH TIME with this potential employer without talking about salary expectations.

The In-Box Experience

The Wednesday before Thanksgiving, at 8:00 am, I arrived at the company's downtown office location for my in-box experience. I brought my computer and the work I had done so far. (BTW--there was a project and pre-work that I did, which took way too long. Holy time suck.) I was told that I needed to use their computer for my work that day.

During the four hours that I was there working (for free) for them, I had an in-person panel interview with people I had talked with via phone, interviewed via Zoom with a consultant, ran a project meeting, completed work on instructional materials for a client, and got feedback on my performance along the way.  I had a final conversation with one of the decision-makers before ending my day. I was told I'd hear back early the following week. 

Lessons Learned: Determine ahead of time how much you are willing to do for a role, and when to call it. Remember, you're interviewing them, too. And, for the love of God, don't do a ton of unpaid labor for a business that is not paying you for your work product.

Thanks, But No

In the middle of the following week, I got a call. It was very brief. Thanks for my time, but they had decided not to proceed with me as a candidate. If I like, though, they would be willing to add me to their possible consultant database for future contract work. 

​Lesson Learned: Never again. In short, I spent about 45 hours total, including about 15 hours of unpaid work that I did for the company, to end up with no job offer. Time to transition all of these lessons learned into new personal guidelines.

My Fancy New Job Search Boundaries

Remember the boundary setting I mentioned before? Here's where we revisit it. After going through this process (and getting mad all over again while writing this article), I am reminded of the outcome of those lessons learned for me.
  • Ask about the hiring process in the initial phone screen. Ask about timelines and next steps. 
  • Sometime during the interview process, have an initial conversation about salary and benefits. Let the organization know that it's to make sure their benefits and total compensation is aligned with my expectations. End the process early on if they are significantly out of line, or at least manage expectations on next steps. 
  • Evaluate my feeling about the role and organization at each step in the process. Be ready to withdraw from the process as needed. Be polite when communicating my desire to not continue with the hiring process. 
  • If the idea of doing work as part of the hiring process comes up, discuss the details and time commitments involved. Offer to review my work samples with them and spend up to 2 hours showcasing my skills. Set expectations that beyond that, my time is valuable and billable. 

Learn More

  • ​​The Layoff Lady: Job Search Challenges, Job Specific Assessments and Projects
  • ​​The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide
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Layoff Lesson Seven: Assess, Adapt, and Rise Above.

3/12/2024

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

​About The Seven Layoff Lessons

Through my seven layoffs and many conversations with others in post-layoff career transition, I have learned seven core lessons:
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  • Lesson One: Experience your emotions and manage your mindset. 
  • Lesson Two: Keep your mind on your money (and your money on your mind).
  • Lesson Three: Ask yourself, “What do I want to be next?”
  • Lesson Four: Shape and share your story.
  • Lesson Five: Help people help you.
  • Lesson Six: Examine your energy to take control of your time. 
  • Lesson Seven: Assess, adapt, and rise above.

About Layoff Lesson Seven: Assess, Adapt, and Rise Above

When you’re searching for a new job, there are always challenges. Like with any system you put in place to solve a problem, it’s helpful to compare the actions you’ve been taking to your results. It's valuable to review where you are getting stuck during the hiring process and updating what you're doing so you can see more success. Let's look at some of the challenges you might face. 

Interview Progression Issues

After you apply for a job, your goal is to be selected for an interview. That process usually includes an initial phone screen, one or more face-to-face interviews, and then a job offer. Let’s look at possible places you might get stuck and how to evolve your approach. 

  • Not getting phone screens: It's time to revisit your target job and resume to make sure they are in alignment. 
  • Not getting a face-to-face interviews:  It’s time to up your phone screen game and practice answers to common interview questions.
  • Not getting offers: First, celebrate the progress you're making. Second, revisit your answers to interview questions and practice to hone your skills. 

Additional Job Search Challenges

Even when you have good results with your overall job search and hear back from companies on specific roles, you’ll still face challenges. Let’s look at a few:
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  • Not being selected to interview for “The Perfect Job”: No matter how great the job seems, many factors impact who they interview.
  • Falling in love with a job: Spoiler alert - it's not your job until you are actually getting a paycheck for your work.
  • Assessments and project work: You have to decide how much "free work" you are willing to do for a job you don't yet have.
  • The process is all over the place: You have to decide how much company disorganization you're okay with.
  • Job offer rescinded: Sometimes job offers evaporate. Knowing it's possible and planning accordingly is important. 

You are the CEO of You

At the end of the day, remember your role as the CEO of You and make a decision that aligns with your overall career and life goals. That might mean adjusting your requirements as your search goes on or holding out for what you really want. You get to decide what matters most to you and change your mind as needed. 

For The Whole Story

For all the information on each of the seven lessons pick up a copy of my book  Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide. ​​​
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  • ​The Layoff Lady: About My Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs
  • ​​The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide​
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Layoff Lesson Five:Help People Help You

2/27/2024

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

About The Seven Layoff Lessons

Through my seven layoffs and many conversations with others in post-layoff career transition, I have learned seven core lessons:​​
  • Lesson One: Experience your emotions and manage your mindset. 
  • Lesson Two: Keep your mind on your money (and your money on your mind).
  • Lesson Three: Ask yourself, “What do I want to be next?”
  • Lesson Four: Shape and share your story.
  • Lesson Five: Help people help you.
  • Lesson Six: Examine your energy to take control of your time. 
  • Lesson Seven: Assess, adapt, and rise above.

About Layoff Lesson Five: Help People Help You

Life is challenging when nothing out-of-the-ordinary is happening. It's even harder when you're going through an unexpected job change. While I'm a fan of self-reliance, I also know how important it is to find your people and support one another as you go through challenges. You're not weak for needing people. You are strong because you know the value of building and leveraging relationships to help get you through trying times. 

I have found that people genuinely want to help. In many cases, though, they might not know what you need. Not only is it vital that you seek out help when you need it, but you need to figure out what type of help you need. 

One Career Transition Revelation

Here's something that might surprise you. When you tell people that you're looking for a new job, this is when you will discover that many people don’t know exactly what it is you do for a living. Instead of being taken aback that they don’t know,  use this as an opportunity to learn how to tell them what you want and need during your career transition--and it's much more than just a new paying job. 

Figure Out What Life Help You Need

First off, you need to figure the types of life help you might need:​
  • ​Emotional support: You'll have all the feelings. Figure out who you can talk to about what. 
  • Communication: The simple act of telling people the news about your situation can be draining. Find friends who can help you spread the word.
  • Sounding board: When considering a big decision, running it past someone helps. Find your trusted advisors to talk through what you're thinking.
  • Logistical support: Sometimes, you'll need a hand figuring out how to make something work. Let people help you solve a tactical problem.
  • Fun: There will be many times when you just need a distraction. Find someone who can help you remember to find joy.
  • Cheerleader: Sometimes, you’ll just need a pep talk. Find that person who is willing to text you random words of encouragement when you need it.​ ​

Figure Out What Job Search Help You Need

In addition,  you need to figure the types of job search help you might need:​
  • Accountability: You may need someone to help you follow through on tasks. Having a person ask you if you followed through will help you progress.
  • Professional feedback: Tap into those people who can give you feedback on your resume, job searching approach, and interview questions can help.
  • Connectors: Knowing someone who seems to know everyone has many advantages. Being able to tap into people's expertise is invaluable.

It Takes a Village

Once you have a better idea of what you need, make sure you don't expect one person to fill all of these roles. Think about who could help you in each area and reach out to them. 

Leveraging Your Professional Network

LinkedIn is my goto tool for building and managing my professional network.  It's importan to make sure your LinkedIn profile represents you well, and that you showcase your experience and the value you bring to others, and to a new role. There is also an art (and a process) to asking people in your professional network in a way that is mutually beneficial. 

For The Whole Story

For all the information on each of the seven lessons pick up a copy of my book  Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide. ​​
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  • The Layoff Lady: About My Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs
  • ​The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide
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Your Evolving Job Requirements

9/19/2023

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By Brenda L. Peterson, The Layoff Lady

What You Want 

In a previous article, we discussed the value of knowing what you want, what you don’t want, and what would be okay. As your job search continues, you may adjust what you want as your job search progresses.

Main Factors To Consider

When you put together your target job, it is just that: your target. As you compare your target to the job market, you will need to revisit your job priorities. Know that one factor that may influence the type of job you take will be your time in the job market. 

Your Acceptable Job May Change Over Time

​Here is how your job wants and needs may change over time:

  • In months 1-2 of your job search, you may be stringent about the characteristics of the job you will accept. You may be set on getting your dream title, at your dream salary, with your dream benefits, and working 100% remote.

  • In months 3-4 of your job search, you may ease your requirements based on the responses you’ve been getting from employers. At that point, you may be open to a really good title, or even an okay title, okay benefits, and even an okay or acceptable salary. However, 100% remote may be non-negotiable for you.

  • During months 4-6, when you know the end date for your unemployment payments is drawing near, you may stumble across a job with a more junior title but with a really good salary really good benefits that is hybrid with only occasional onsite work needed. This might be the right combination for you.

  • After 6 months, you may be in a position where you need to start earning income since your unemployment payments are over. Now, you may be most concerned about a really good salary, be okay with no benefits (because maybe you’re on another household member’s plan), and take a 100% remote contract gig with a solid hourly wage. 

You Can Also Stay the Course

Conversely, you may be committed to find a job that very closely aligns with your target job. The good news is that you get to decide what role is right for you, and what will make you happy longer term. The bad news is that it may take you longer if you have very specific requirements and less flexibility. In this case, make sure that you think through options for interim income so you are able to support yourself as you find a role that meets your requirements. 

Learn More

  • The Layoff Lady: Career Planning - Figuring Out What You Want To Be Next
  • The Layoff Lady: Managing Your Money - Layoff Survival Budget Sources of Income​
  • ​The Layoff Lady's Ultimate Guide To Answering The Question, "I Just Got Laid Off--Now What Do I Do?"​
  • The Layoff Lady Book: Seven Lessons From Seven Layoffs: A Guide
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